Today we had a fishbowl, discussing chapters 5-8. Some main points were:
- Wilde’s portrayal of women; is it an ugly one?
- Wilde putting himself in all of the characters
- Do you think that Dorian even feels bad about Sybil’s suicide?
- It was thought he didn’t have a true attachment because he was in love with the acting that Sybil did, not her true self
- Did Wilde actually put himself in the characters?
- Basil put himself fully in the painting, does that correlate with Wilde?
- Opposing views
- Do you think Basil and Dorian’s relationship went downhill once Henry and Dorian became close?
- Or is it the change in the portrait that offends Dorian?
- Is the painting becoming older, more grotesque looking because Dorian is gaining brains, and can’t have beauty and brains simultaneously?
- Is the painting a mirror? Or a window?
- Foreshadows what he could becomes, but reflecting his inner thoughts
- Is the painting actually changing? Or is it just in Dorian’s head?
- Will Sybil’s brother kill Dorian?
- Does that include destroying the portrait?
- But James doesn’t know who Dorian is yet, but he could seek him out
- Though a suicide, won’t let it go until blame can go on someone
- Did Dorian see the ugly in the painting because of the death of Sybil, and his conscience was shining through?
- Picture becomes moral compass?
- Redemption is showing his sins (the picture?)
- When he dies, what will happen to the picture
- To be fully good, does he have to fully repent?
- Dorian’s pact: To stay young, he gave his soul to the portrait. So he is living a life without a soul
- Genesis (Adam and Eve= Dorian and Sybil, Serpent= Henry, God=Basil)
- Continues into temptation, but he has no soul so can’t feel it but sees it in the portrait
- Why was Henry more of an influence?
- Temptation
- So who is the creator?
- Basil
- Ultimate creator has to leave their creation at some point, but there’s multiple influences (creators) through life
- learn from experience (right from wrong)
Homework: Read 9-10
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