Wednesday, March 6, 2013

Fishbowl 9-12 question

Is Dorian responsible for ruining lives of his friends? Is Lord Henry responsible for ruining the life of Dorian? When do you think is someone responsible for their actions?

19 comments:

  1. I don't think that neither Dorian nor Lord Henry are responsible for ruining lives. I think Dorian let Lord Henry get to him and influence him more than he should have,and the same with the people that Dorian has influenced. People have to start taking responsibility for their actions when they purposely do something wrong, not just being with them and giving their opinions.

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  2. Someone is always responsible for their actions, yet Dorian was not responsible for other's lives, and neither was Lord Henry. All of them simply made their own choices. Dorian didn't have to listen let alone believe to what Lord Henry said. Dorian decided he would actually hear what Lord Henry said and took it under such great influence himself. Same with Dorian's old friends, for it was their choice too let Dorian's attitude overpower them, and they were the ones to take their own lives.

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  3. I don't think one can hold either character "responsible", but one could definitely point out the fact that first Lord Henry and then Dorian had a great amount of influence over others, which could have persuaded those people to do what they ended up doing. All too often, a person will look to someone else to blame for their problems, which could easily be the people who had presented the activity or lifestyle choice that person, even though only the individual can really control their actions. So while people should take personal responsibility, it is usually just easier not to.

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  4. I think that both Dorian and Henry are responsible for their actions in full. I believe that someone is always responsible for their actions when they are fully aware what they are doing, but if they don't know what they're doing then they're not accountable.

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  5. I believe Dorian is responsible in a lot of ways for the ruining of his friends lives. Before they get caught up with Dorian Gray they were highly looked upon but after Dorian influences them they are hardly associated with the higher class anymore. After the influence of his presence Dorian’s friends are in many ways banished from society forever effectively ruining their lives. I don’t believe Lord Henry is necessarily responsible for ruining Dorian’s life. I think that Dorian would have reached the same end with or without Lord Henry’s influence at some point in his life but I do believe it was brought on more quickly by Lord Henry’s influence. I think people are responsible for their actions from the moment they decide to perform them. We all should be held accountable for the choices we make in life.

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  6. I think Dorian is a key factor in ruining the life of his friends. He was a bad influence on them just as Lord Henry was a bad influence on him. However, Dorian is not the one responsible for his friend's lives. They made a choice to be friends with Dorian and associate with him like how Dorian chose to be friends with Lord Henry. Everyone is responsible for their own actions. If someone’s life ends up in ruins then there was a point when they decided to give up the freedom to choose. For Dorian it was when he decided to keep Lord Henry as a friend.

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  7. I dont believe either were responsible because everything that happened was in response to others ideas and opinions. Just because it may seem like it is someones fault does not make it his or her fault. Since no one is actually forcing their opinions on each other everyone is there fore responsible for their own actions.

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  8. Personally I don't think either person is responsible for what goes on around them, I think that all of the actions happened out of choice. Everyone that did anything in this story went out of choice, yet I think they may have been influenced in some way. I think at the point when someone can think for themself freely, they are responsible for their own actions. And, all of these people has that ability.

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  9. I completely believe that Dorian is responsible for ruining the life of his friends and the people he loves. He listens to all of the stories and lies that Lord Henry is telling him and Dorian is believing him. Overall it is Dorians responsibility to determine what he listens to and what he believes as truth. Eventually Dorian will have to be responsible for his own actions and what he does to the people around him. He cannot just go around blaming others for his mistakes. Though Lord Henry did put many of the ideas Dorian has inside his head, it is the overall responsibility of Dorian to chose whether or not he acts a certain way.

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  11. I do not think Dorian is responsible for ruining the lives of his friends, excluding Sibyl. Sibyl is the only individual whose life was ruined/ended solely because of Dorian. All of his other friends would be in the same position without Dorian in their lives, in my opion. Although Dorian is responsible for his own actions, I do believe that Lord Henry is partially the reason for Dorian's downfall, just because he had so much influence on him, and he caused drastic changes in Dorian's life.

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  12. Dorian is not responsible for ruining any ones life but his own. I think that everyone is accountable for there own actions. I think that we can be influnced by othere, such as Lord Henry influencing Dorians life and views but Lord Henry is not reponsible for ruining Dorains life. He is in control of his own actions amd feelings. I think we are ALWAYS responsible for our own actions. No one else in in control of who we are other than our selves. Outside things can influence us but will not control us.

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  13. I believe that Dorian is responsible for ruining the lives of his friends and loved ones around him. However, I do not think that Lord Henry is responsible for ruining Dorian's life because he does have great influence on Dorian, but ultimately Dorian didn't have to listen to him but he did and he is now ruining his own life by doing so. The only person that needs to take responsibility is Dorian and be accountable for his horrible actions towards people and he needs to realize he doesn't have to listen to Lord Henry and he can do what is right for him and his loved ones around him.

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  14. Personally, I don't believe that Dorian has ruined his friends lives. Yes, Dorian's actions may influence others but is not responsible for ruining their lives. For example, Basil's life has been changed because he now feels obligated to take care of Dorian and watch out for him, Basil made the choice to do so. Lord Henry cannot be held responsible for ruining the life of dorian. Hendy just simpily showed him another way to look at life and he could embrace that if wanted. Henry reads all the same books as Dorian does but Henry sees them just as books not as a guide like Dorian does. I believe you are held liable for your actions at all time, yes somebody might of influenced you, but you still made the choice to do what you did. Life is full of choices it is up to you to chose the right ones.

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  15. I don't think either characters were responsible for ruining another person's life. Yes, they did share their insights/ideas/opinions with one another, but no one actually used force to get someone to do what they wanted. They may have influenced some people in different ways, but not to the point of ruining lives. I do think there is one exception: Sybil. It does seem that Dorian is responsible for her suicide because he sharp turn of behavior with her. One ought to take responsibility when they directly force harm on another person. It is not someone's responsibility if another person makes the wrong choice, even if they were influenced or not. The choice was still theirs to make and if they chose wrong, there is no one else to blame but themselves

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  16. I do not believe that Dorian or Lord Henry are responsible for ruining others lifes. I think they are responsible for the inflience they have on other people but I also feel like it is your responsibility not to let yourself be inflienced. Dorian is not responsible for anyones life except his own. He had let Lord Henry create a new person for him, and he let Lord Henry influence him too much. It is not Lord Henry's fault however, because we have to take responsibility for our actions and we have to only let ouyrselves be influenced by people we want to be more like.

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  17. Dorian and Lord Henry are not responsible for ruining each others lives. It is up to the person on how much they let people manipulate and influence themselves. Lord Henry did influence much of what Dorian did yet he is not responsible as it is Dorian who let himself get influenced.

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  18. I think that everyone is responsible for their own actions. All though one can argue that if a person has an influence on others that they are responsible for what happens. In a way that's true. Lord Henry used is influence on Dorian because he saw how much power he had over him. But that doesn't make him fully responsible for Dorian's actions. Dorian has the free will to do whatever he chooses and if its for the better or worse it will only affect him. Its Dorian's fault for behaving the way he does and that goes with how people let Dorian affect their lives. No one forces you to do anything unless its by violence or threats.

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  19. Everyone must always be responsible for their actions and be able to account for what they have done. Lord Henry is not responsible for ruining Dorian's life because Dorian is the one who chose to listen to the advice. People must be responsible for themselves. Dorian however may be responsible for ruining some of his friends lives because he directly hurt them, without them having any choice in the matter. People must always be responsible for themselves.

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